MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON TUESDAY, 7 NOVEMBER 2017, AT 7.30PM IN THE VILLAGE HALL, 108 LONDON ROAD, SHENLEY
PRESENT: Councillors Nicky Beaton, Annette Edel, Rosemary Gilligan, Helen Hussain, Gavin O’Sullivan, , Anthony Spencer, William Susman (Chair) and Peter Wayne
- In attendance: Amanda Leboff, Clerk to the Council
81/17. Apologies for Absence.
Apologies for absence were submitted from Councillor Robert Perlmutter, and County Councillor Morris Bright.
82/17. Declarations of Interests
PERSONAL – Councillors Gilligan, Spencer and Susman declared a personal interest in the item concerning Shenley Park Trust.
83/17 Minutes of the Parish Council Meeting held on 3rd October 2017
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Ordinary Parish Council meeting, held on 3rd October 2017 be confirmed as a correct record, and signed by Cllr Susman and adopted by the Council.
84/17. Review of Action Plan from above meetings
The Action plan was NOTED.
85/17. Questions by residents of Shenley Parish
The chairman took the opportunity to welcome members of the press and public to the meeting.
86/17. Reports of Committee, Members and Clerk
(i) Emails from residents regarding planning applications for The Church of The Good Shepherd
The Chairman welcomed Mrs Delaney to the meeting. Mrs Delaney explained that the hall is a community hall and is used throughout the year by parishioners. There has been a lack of consultation from the Church with the parishioners who have been kept out of the loop regarding the plans. The Church and hall were built using funds raised by the community via fundraising. Councillor Gillian stated she was shocked the dioceses have decided to do this as it was built by the Shenley Catholic community.
The meeting agreed that the hall is an extra community facility and the Priest’s house is currently rented out to a family so the removal of this would mean the loss of a viable home. Moreover if a new priest came to the community there would be no accommodation.
Following a lengthy discussion the meeting AGREED to object to planning applications 17/1942/FUL and 17/1865/FUL.
(ii) Hertsmere Local Plan – Update
Councillor Gilligan informed the meeting that the objection letter has been sent and Hertsmere Borough Council has acknowledged receipt. Councillor Gilligan went on to explain the housing numbers recommended by the Government are far less than Hertsmere are suggesting, and cannot understand why Hertsmere are trying to build a commuter town with additional housing numbers that are not being requested by Government. The meeting were also reminded of the meeting with Oliver Dowden on 8th December.
(iii) Neighbourhood Plan – Update
Councillors Beaton and Gilligan informed the meeting this was progressing and that they are waiting on the reports from AECOM.
(iv) Gates at the Entrance to Shenley
Following a discussion the meeting AGREED that the Clerk would contact Herts Highways and ask if Gates would be allowed at both entrances to Shenley and what would be needed to proceed.
(v) Pond Lights
Councillor Susman has meetings to finalise this.
(vi) Pursley Field – Update
Clerk to chase solicitor.
(vii) Harris Lane/Rookery Field
Councillor Susman informed the meeting we will be ordering the hoop for the field.
The Clerk informed the meeting that the entrance to the allotments has been resurfaced.
(ix) Shenley Fete
Councillor Beaton informed the meeting the Fete AGM will take place on Wednesday 15th November in the Methodist Church hall.
(x) Future Initiative Events
The coming months are:-
Remembrance Sunday Sunday 12th November 10.45am
Christmas lights switch on Tuesday 14th November 5.30-6.30pm
Chanukah Saturday 16th December 5.30-6.30pm
Santa’s Ride around Sunday 17th December 11.30am starting at the pond
Christmas at the Cage Sunday 17th December 5.30-6.30pm
Councillor Beaton asked the Councillors for their support during these events as it takes a lot of work to run them
- It was agreed that the Christmas Lights switch on would be set up from 4.30pm and all those able to help should come along.
(xi) Media Committee
Councillor Beaton informed the meeting that Shenley Village Matters has now been delivered.
Information was noted.
(xiii) Police Update
Nothing to report.
(xiv) Shenley Park Trust
Councillor Spencer informed the meeting the next meeting on 11th December.
(i) Receipt of the following correspondence was reported and noted:
|HCC Rights of Way||RoW Clearance Contract|
88/17. Planning Applications
The following planning applications were before the meeting. The meeting AGREED that;
(1) Subject to Hertsmere Borough Council taking into consideration any comments of neighbouring owners/occupiers, the Parish Council raises no objection to the following proposal.
|Application No.||Address||Proposed Development|
|17/1995/VOC||Hertswood School, Cowley Hill, Borehamwood, Hertfordshire.||Application for variation of condition 24 to allow for amending and substituting
approved drawings to allow for changes to windows and external finish
materials, following grant of planning permission ref: 14/1766/FUL.
Condition Number(s): 24 approved drawings
Substitution of drawings to make minor changes to the approved drawings
With regards to
|17/1968/HSE||5 Old Nursery Close, Shenley, Hertfordshire, WD7 9FD||Erection of single storey side and rear extension following reduction in size of existing car port.|
The meeting OBJECTED to this application as Permitted Development Rights have been removed and the owners would have been aware of this when they purchased the property.
With regards to
|17/1958/FUL||Land adjacent to Black Lion, London Road, Shenley, Hertfordshire||Erection of single storey, detached, 1 bed dwelling (Revised Application)|
The meeting OBJECT to this application. Please see appendix ‘A’.
With regards to
|17/1942/FUL||The Church Of The Good Shepherd, Shenleybury, Shenley, Hertfordshire||Change of use of existing church hall (D2) to a Nursery (D1) with associated
The meeting OBJECTED to this application as it would result in the loss of a well-used community hall, which amongst other things is also used as a polling station. It is the only hall in Shenley with a substantial carpark. The proposal for an additional nursery in Shenley would result in an increase in daily traffic at what is already a notoriously dangerous bend. Moreover there are already 2 nurseries in Shenley and another it is felt, would be an overprovision. Finally the church hall was built using money raised by parishioners, for the use of the church and its parishioners.
With regards to
|17/1865/FUL||Church House, Black Lion Hill, Shenley, Hertfordshire||Change of use from (C3) residential to (A2) offices|
The meeting OBJECTED to this application as it would result in the loss of residential housing, and is currently being lived in by a family.
(i)Other planning matters were noted, and
(ii)The council instructs the Clerk to advise Hertsmere Borough Council accordingly.
(*Denotes that at this point, the Council moved to discuss planning applications which had been brought to its attention at the meeting. They were proposed and seconded.)
88/17. Financial matters
(I) Accounts for payment –September 2017 meeting
|Payment To||Reason||Total Amount|
|Bob Gough||Grounds Maintenance (September payment)||384.00|
|Fay Gough||Cleaning toilet, office (September payment) & reimburse for items||94.67|
|Danny Gough||Grounds Maintenance (September payment)||280.00|
|John O’Conner||August grounds maintenance||144.00|
|Caprin Printers||Printing flyers for SPC info on Local Plan evening||165.00|
|BT||Office phone and broadband||95.65|
|Came and Company||Parish Council Insurance (3 Year long term agreement in)||2516.23|
|Shenley Methodist Church||Hire of hall (Neighbourhood plan)||35.00|
|SCAG Account||Transfer of funds to the SCAG account||2000.00|
|Petty Cash||Petty Cash – amount to take up to £200 imprest system for September 2017||166.54|
|Steve Shelton||Reimburse items to make plot numbers for the allotments||32.02|
|Caprin Printers||2 banners for Public Meeting||202.80|
|Affinity Water||The allotments||588.06|
|Affinity Water||Harris Lane Pavilion||74.47|
|Affinity Water||The Hub||15.60|
|Dor-2-Dor (G L Green)||Delivery of Public Meeting flyers||143.00|
|Mrs Amanda Leboff||Expenses – XERO monthly payment & reimburse for banners||139.97|
|Electrical Testing Ltd||Structural testing for Christmas Lights||2136.49|
|Gardener||4 months gardening of pond area||210.00|
|Mrs Amanda Leboff||Wages||1087.72|
|John O’Conner||Missing invoice for June 2017||87.00|
|Caprin Printers||Halloween posters||63.00|
|E.ON||Harris Lane Pavilion||26.23|
|Bob Gough||Grounds Maintenance (October payment)||434.00|
|Fay Gough||Cleaning toilet, office (October payment)||40.00|
|The Royal British Legion||Poppy Appeal Wreath||19.00|
|Caprin Printers||Public Meeting leaflets||152.00|
|Caprin Printers||Shenley Village Matters Autumn 2017 – issue 11||1179.00|
|Dor-2-Dor (G L Green)||Delivery of Shenley Village Matters – issue 11||143.00|
|William Susman||Reimburse items for Halloween and Christmas||94.22|
Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-
RESOLVED that the October 2017 meeting accounts for October 2017 (£13,041.54), be approved for payment.
(II) Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED that the monthly budget monitoring report be approved.
(III) Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED that the monthly petty cash report be approved
(IV) Section 137 Grant Requests: – There were none
(V) It was RESOLVED to ACCEPT the proposal to spend up to £1,200 pa to use to employ an outside company to take on responsibility as General Data Protection Regulation controller.
(VI) The council AGREED not to purchase a second CCTV camera.
90/17. The meeting ended at 9.15p.m. Chairman
ACTION LIST – TUESDAY 7 NOVEMBER 2017
|Planning Applications||Letter to Hertsmere Borough Council advising of the Council’s opinions.||Clerk||Actioned|
|Pond lights||Hire of lighting designer to plan what is needed||Clerk & Cllr Susman||ASAP|
|Basket Ball hoop||To be ordered||ASAP|
|Highways||Ask for relining of road markings on Rectory Lane and by Cage Pond Road and Pound Lane||Clerk||Actioned|
|Police||Ask Police to attend Council meeting||Clerk||ASAP|
Shenley Parish Council
Planning Department Your Ref: Ref: Application 17/1958/FUL
Hertsmere Borough Council Our Ref: PLANLE07/11/17
Herts WD6 1WA 8th November 2017
To whom it may concern,
Following the full meeting of the Shenley Parish Council on Tuesday 7th November 2017, the Parish Council OBJECTED to application 17/1958/FUL.
As reference has been made to the previous appeal which was dismissed. It is appropriate to note the parts of the inspector’s decision relating to a replacement dwelling in a barn style.
6 However, the introduction of a dwelling on the site of the former stables would have an entirely different relationship with surrounding built form, most notably in that it would not comprise the filling of a gap or space, but would occupy a position closer to Rectory Lane, on what is essentially an open frontage and bound by a large expense of open space to the East. Therefore, and notwithstanding the presence of the existing stable building on this part of the site, as I must assess the development in its entirety, it follows that the scheme as a whole would not amount to infilling for the purposes of GB policy. It also follows that I do not need to go on to consider whether it would be limited.
7 The proposal would thus amount to inappropriate development in the GB. There would also be some impact on the openness of the GB and the Council cites volumetric comparisons between the massing of the existing and proposed buildings on the site. However, it seems to me a common scenario that the development of GB infill sites will include the introduction of new built form, often where none existed previously. That aside, the proposals would inevitably result in some loss of openness, which in itself would not lead me to dismiss the appeal,(relating to the whole site) but nonetheless adds to the harm by reason of inappropriateness.
11 However, I do share the Council’s concern in relation to the proximity of the barn style dwelling to the side of the terrace of three houses. Its juxtaposition with the terrace would be uncomfortably close and its two storey massing would look out of place set forward of the terrace to Rectory Lane. I appreciate it would replace the existing stable/barn, but as a low key single storey structure, that building is a relatively minor component of the built form at the site and the proposed dwelling, being considerably taller, would have a stronger physical presence.
12 I am also concerned that its barn style appearance would not relate well to the remainder of the development and the existing Public House, although I acknowledge that the antecedent to its design was likely the existing structure on site. In this respect, I consider that the proposal would not comply with the advice in the Planning and Design Guide Part D: Guidelines for Development Supplementary Planning Document (2013) (SPD) which stresses the importance of the integration of developments with existing urban structure. This particular element of the scheme, in lacking coherence with the balance of the development on site, would thus harm the character and appearance of the Shenley Conservation Area.
Having read the specifications for the new barn, the Parish Council does not feel that the current application is much varied from the original description. The redevelopment of the site has caused much upset within the village. Please note the comment that the car parking will be included in the car parking arrangements for the terrace of three just built. The opening of the restaurant has caused issues with parking on Rectory lane and to remove two car parking which are currently marked for the use of restaurant in the newly completed parking area for the new houses, would only exuberate the matter.
This application was refused in its first 2 incarnations, and nothing in the reduction to one bedroom makes it anymore suitable.
I shall be pleased if you will kindly arrange for the foregoing comments to be taken into consideration when the application is dealt with by the Borough Council.
Clerk to the Council