Shenley Parish

1st May 2018 – Shenley Parish Meeting Minutes



PRESENT: Councillors, Nicky Beaton, Rosemary Gilligan, Gavin O’Sullivan, William Susman (Chair) and Peter Wayne.

  • In attendance:            Amanda Leboff, Clerk to the Council


12/18.           Apologies for Absence.

Apologies for absence were submitted from Councillors Annette Edel, Helen Hussain, Anthony Spencer and County Councillor Morris Bright.


13/18.           Declarations of Interests

PERSONAL – Councillors Gilligan and Susman declared a personal interest in the item concerning Shenley Park Trust.



14/18.           Minutes of the Parish Council Meeting held on 3rd April 2018

RESOLVED that the minutes of the Ordinary Parish Council meeting, held on the 3rd April 2018 be confirmed as a correct record, and signed by Cllr Susman and adopted by the Council.


15/18.           Review of Action Plan from above meetings

The Action plan was NOTED.


16/18                        Questions by residents of Shenley Parish

The chairman welcomed several residents to the meeting who wished to be involved in point 17/18 (i) on the agenda


17/18.           Reports of Committee, Members and Clerk

  1. Speeding on Black Lion Hill
  2. Councillor Susman reiterated that following the results the survey the next steps can be taken.
  3. Following a discussion it was AGREED that an AVERAGE SPEED CAMERA would be best placed, as speed needs to be reduced especially as there is a school close by.
  4. Mrs Midson asked if it worth starting a petition. It was suggested that a template letter would be better so that individuals can send in their own letters to highways.
  5. Councillor Susman said that the traffic survey is now back on track following a delay due to the weather. The Parish Council will keep on top of this for when the results come out. Following this a solution can be decided on for a solution. It was AGREED the clerk will find out the date when the survey is due to be completed.
  6. Councillor Wayne informed the meeting that Highways are monitoring the situation. RG said she has spoken with County Council with regards to the concealed entrances on Black Lion Hill. Moreover Mrs Midson said that the hill conceals all the entrances on Black Lion Hill, and there are at least 70 lorries using Black Lion Hill daily.
  7. There is also concern as Black Lion Hill goes into Shenleybury as there are continual accidents on the bend.
  8. The chairman invited Mrs Midson to address the meeting. Mrs Midson began by apologising for not realising the Parish Council’s efforts regarding the speeding on Black Lion Hill. Mrs Midson was concerned that the request for an SID on Black Lion Hill had been refused. RG said that the reason this was refused was because several years ago a traffic survey was carried out and Highways felt that the speed limit should be increased from 30mph to 40mph. The issues regarding the speeding started when the M25 was built. Mrs Midson questioned why there are speed indicators in London Colney and Well End and not in Shenley?
  9. CCTV – Option of hiring a second cameraFollowing a proposer and a seconder it was AGREED to go ahead with hiring the camera, with it being situated in Ribston Close.
  11. The meeting discussed the option of hiring a second CCTV camera from St Hertfordshire CCTV Partnership Ltd for £100 a month.
  12. Neighbourhood Plan – Update
  13. Councillor Beaton informed the meeting that over 30 people had attended the Steering Group meeting where the draft neighbourhood plan was being presented. The next Steering Group meeting will take place on 14th May 2018. The date for the public meeting will be on 7th June. This will be advertised with flyers and leaflets etc. The official launch for the meeting will be on 1st July at the Shenley fete. The Site Allocation report has been produced and has said that no site in Shenley is suitable for development due to the green belt. The Housing Needs Assessment has said that from 2019 for the next 15 years a total of 220 houses would be needed, or 14 homes a year. Cllr Gilligan also highlighted that some Neighbourhood Plan groups
  14. Action for a Cleaner Shenley – Update 
  15. Cllr Beaton informed the meeting that the Action for a Cleaner Shenley Group will be meeting again on Sunday 6th May.
  16. Community Payback Scheme – Update
  17. Councillor Beaton informed the meeting that this is going very well.
  18. Harris Lane/Rookery Field

Nothing to report


  1. Allotments – Complaint from resident regarding bonfires 
  2. The meeting NOTED the letter of complaint form a resident concerning bonfires at the allotments. It was AGREED that the clerk would write to the allotment holder warning them of the rules concerning bonfires and will let the resident know what action has been taken.
  3. Shenley FeteCouncillor Beaton asked if it would be possible to have the electricity capacity in the Pavilion at Harris Lane increased to accommodate more food being cooked at served at the fete. NB said the fete would cover any costs involved. It was agreed that this would be permitted.
  4. Cllr Beaton informed the meeting that the plans are progressing well and asked if the Councillors can help on the day. It was suggested that perhaps the Community Payback team could help to pack away after the event. NB will look into this as an option.
  5. Media Committee
  6. A date for the next meeting needs to be set.
  7. Police Update 
  8. The meeting NOTED that the PCSO Chris Ramdeen is arranging surgery times at The Hub.
  9. Shenley Park Trust
  10. 18/18.           Correspondence
  11. It was AGREED that Cllr Susman will speak to the Shenley Park Trust regarding the removing the precarious tree on Black Lion Hill and when the gas works on the Gingerbread House will be completed.
  12. Cllr Beaton asked how the Shenley Park Trust 5 year plan is going to be paid for.
  1. Receipt of the following correspondence was reported and noted:


19/18.           Planning Applications

The following planning applications were before the meeting. The meeting AGREED that;

  1.       Subject to Hertsmere Borough Council taking into consideration any comments of neighbouring owners/occupiers, the Parish Council raises no objection to the following proposals.
Application No. Address Proposed Development
18/0589/HSE 5 London Road, Shenley, Hertfordshire, WD7 9EW Erection of 2 storey rear extension
18/0610/CLP 22 Woodhall Lane Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9AT Front porch, hip to gable roof enlargement with rear dormer window and front

rooflights. Single storey rear extension of 6 metres depth, as previously

approved under Neighbour Consultation Scheme.

18/0712/FUL Manor Lodge School Ridge Hill Shenley Hertfordshire Installation of fire escape to west elevation of sports building.


18/0735/HSE 9 Hamblings Close Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9JJ Single storey rear extension & conversion of loft into habitable room with 1No.

front & 2No. rear roof lights & window to side elevation.


With regards to;

18/0619/HSE 4 Old Nursery Close, Shenley, Hertfordshire, WD7 9FD


Conversion and enlargement of existing detached garage to provide self

contained residential accommodation.

The meeting OBJECTED to this application as Permitted Development Rights have been removed and the owners would have been aware of this when they purchased the property. In addition the Council OBJECTED to the self-contained dwelling as this would suggest the need for additional parking.


With regards to;

18/0741/CLP 1 Rowan Close Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9LD Conversion of loft to habitable room with rear dormer and 3 front roof lights.

Certificate of Lawful Development (Proposed)

18/0753/HSE 1 Rowan Close Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9LD Conversion of loft into habitable room with rear dormer & 3 No. front roof lights.

The Council OBJECTED to these applications on the grounds of inappropriate use of dormer windows.


With regards to;

18/0266/LBC Thatched Cottage, Silver Hill, Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, WD6 5PW


Demolition of existing fire damaged building & erection of a replacement 3-

bed detached dwelling with accommodation within the roof space. (Amended description

Plans 10.04.2018) (Listed Building Consent).

18/0265/FUL Thatched Cottage, Silver Hill, Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, WD6 5PW



Demolition of existing fire damaged building & erection of a replacement 3-

bed detached dwelling with accommodation within the roof space (Amended description

Plans 10.04.2018).

The Parish Council dismissed these applications as the Planning department have since approved them.


(i)Other planning matters were noted, and

(ii)The council instructs the Clerk to advise Hertsmere Borough Council accordingly.

(*Denotes that at this point, the Council moved to discuss planning applications which had been brought to its attention at the meeting. They were proposed and seconded.)


20/18.           Financial matters

  1. Accounts for payment –May 2018 meeting
  • The following accounts for the May 2018 meeting were received:
Payment To Reason Total Amount
HAPTC and NALC Annual Subs/Membership 963.41
John O’Conner Grounds Maintenance 144.00
Mrs Amanda Leboff Reimburse monthly Xero payment ( April) 32.40
Mrs Amanda Leboff Wages 1075.93
HMRC Payment 195.91
E.ON Harris Lane Pavilion – Meter read 04/04/18 238.06
Mrs Amanda Leboff Reimburse for SCAG trip items 35.40
E.ON The Cage – Meter read 21/03/18 9.94
Shenley District and Horticultural Society Grant 200.00
Shenley Methodist Church Hire of Methodist Church Hall – Neighbourhood Plan 7.00
Mrs Amanda Leboff Expenses 40.00
Bob Gough Grounds Maintenance 384.00
Fay Gough Cleaning toilet & office. 32.00
Petty Cash Petty Cash   – amount to take up to £200 imprest system for Feb 2018 196.32
AGA Bioengineering Annual maintenance Inc. installation of AGA Aqua Bio Spray , spray off Reedmace with herbicide 2166.00
ImaginePlaces Neighbourhood Plan Support 2244.00
BT Office phone and broadband 82.42
TOTAL 8046.79


SCAG Account

Payment To Reason Total Amount
PPH Coaches 2 coaches to Highclere Castle 11/04/18 11000.
Salters Steamers LTD Deposit for summer trip – boat trip around Windsor 100.00
TOTAL 1200.00

Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-

RESOLVED that the April 2018 accounts totalling £8,046.79 be approved for payment.

RESOLVED that the April 2018 SCAG account totalling £1,200 be approved for payment.


  1. Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED that the monthly budget monitoring report be approved
  2. Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED that the monthly petty cash report be approved
  3. Grant Requests using General Power of Competence: there were none
  4. Metro Bank – It was AGREED that this will be completed at the June meeting
  5. Quote for Christmas Lights 2018Christmas Lights-      £2,700.00 + VAT ACTION LIST – TUESDAY 1 MAY 2018
  6. 21/18.           The meeting ended at 9.20p.m.                                                       Chairman
  7. Per column-               £125
  8. Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED to APPROVE the Christmas Lights quote which includes electrics, RCD & timer plus amp socket in 4 new columns for 2018:-
provision action by action
Planning Applications Letter to Hertsmere Borough Council advising of the Council’s opinions. Clerk ASAP
Christmas Lights Inform Christmas Lights Illumination that quote has been agreed Clerk ASAP
Speeding Chase Highways regarding Speed Survey on Black Lion Hill/ Shenleybury Clerk & Cllr Susman ASAP
CCTV Camera Contact Herts CCTV partnership and inform approval of quote Clerk ASAP
Allotments Contact allotment holder who had bonfire and remind of rules and inform resident this has been done Clerk ASAP
Shenley Park Trust Contact SPT to ask when Gingerbread works will be completed and when the tree on Black Lion Hill will be removed Cllr Susman ASAP
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