Shenley Parish

TUESDAY, 5 DECEMBER 2017 – Shenley Parish Meeting Minutes



PRESENT: Councillors Rosemary Gilligan, Helen Hussain, Robert Perlmutter, Anthony Spencer, William Susman (Chair)

  • In attendance:            Amanda Leboff, Clerk to the Council


91/17.           Apologies for Absence.

Apologies for absence were submitted from Councillor Nicky Beaton, Annette Edel, Gavin O’Sullivan, Peter Wayne and County Councillor Morris Bright.


92/17.                       Declarations of Interests

PERSONAL – Councillors Gilligan, Spencer and Susman declared a personal interest in the item concerning Shenley Park Trust.



93/17                        Minutes of the Parish Council Meeting held on 7th November 2017

RESOLVED that the minutes of the Ordinary Parish Council meeting, held on 7th November 2017 be confirmed as a correct record, and signed by Cllr Susman and adopted by the Council.


94/17.                       Review of Action Plan from above meetings

The Action plan was NOTED.


95/17.           Questions by residents of Shenley Parish

The chairman took the opportunity to welcome members of the press and public to the meeting.


The Chair invited Susan Whitehead to address the meeting concerning the retrospective application that is going to appeal for Woodland Yard. Residents are concerned that HBC will not represent them adequately against the appeal as was the case previously.  At the original appeal they were only allowed 1 pitch which is now being appealed against. The appeal will be heard on 21st December.  Cllr Spencer ensured the meeting that HBC will be well represented this time. It was noted that HBC have still not fulfilled their quota of gypsy site provisions. Councillors Gilligan, Spencer and Susman said they will attend the appeal and Cllr Gilligan will speak against it on behalf of the residents.


The Chair thanked everyone for attending the meeting.


96/17.           Reports of Committee, Members and Clerk

(i)                Planning application 17/1872/FUL-. Land rear of Summerhill and Northfields, king Edward road, Shenley, – (Mrs & Mrs Sankey)

The Chairman then welcomed the residents opposing planning application 17/1872/FUL.  The residents said they had accepted the original plan for a 3 bedroom house as they appreciate the need for new housing.  However the new building is far larger and breaches the distance allowed between a new build development and an existing property.  It was NOTED the application has been called to committee.  It was requested that Councillor Susman attend the meeting and speak against the application as the community advocate (please see point 98/17).


(ii)              Data Protection – Report to Full Council to be noted

The Council NOTED the report.


(iii)            Hertsmere Local Plan – Update (see point 99/17(iv)

Following a lengthy discussion the meeting AGREED the employ Imagineplaces to support the Parish Council at the Local Plan meeting on 07/12/17.


(iv)            Neighbourhood Plan – Update

Councillors Hussain informed the meeting that the recent grant request has been approved.  Cllr Gilligan said the draft site allocation proposals are due in the next few weeks.


(v)              Gates at the Entrance to Shenley

Following a discussion the meeting AGREED that this will be deferred as it was felt to be an unnecessary cost at present.


(vi)            Pond Lights

Councillor Susman has meetings to finalise this. Cllr Hussain informed the meeting that residents have requested a “Do Not Feed the Ducks” sign at the pond. It was AGREED that this would be looked into.


(vii)          Pursley Field – Update

Nothing to report.


(viii)        Harris Lane/Rookery Field

Thanks to Gristwood and Toms for removing the fallen tree and relocating the bees next.  It was AGREED that the cost of a tree survey be looked into for all the trees in Harris Lane and Rookery Field.


(ix)            Allotments

The Clerk informed the meeting that the next meeting is on 12/12/17.


(x)              Shenley Fete

Nothing to report.


(xi)            Future Initiative Events

The coming months are:-

Chanukah                                           Saturday 16th December 5.30-6.30pm

Santa’s Ride around                         Sunday 17th December 11.30am starting at the pond

Christmas at the Cage                       Sunday 17th December 5.30-6.30pm


Councillors were asked to support and help at these events


(xii)          Media Committee

Nothing to report.


(xiii)        CSP

Information was noted.


(xiv)        Police Update

Nothing to report.


(xv)          Shenley Park Trust

Councillor Spencer informed the meeting the next meeting on 11th December.


(xvi)        HCC – enclosed the proposed 2018 / 2019 Highways Forward Work Programme

Information was noted.



97/17.           Correspondence

(i)                Receipt of the following correspondence was reported and noted:

HCC Rights of Way RoW Clearance Contract


98/17.           Planning Applications

The following planning applications were before the meeting. The meeting AGREED that;

(1)        Subject to Hertsmere Borough Council taking into consideration any comments of neighbouring owners/occupiers, the Parish Council raises no objection to the following proposal.

Application No. Address Proposed Development
17/2132/FUL University College London Sports Ground And Watford Football Club Training Ground, Bell Lane London Colney Hertfordshire Erection of temporary team changing rooms


17/2184/HSE 12 Raphael Close Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9JG Single storey rear extension with roof lantern
17/2133/FUL University College London Sports Ground And Watford Football Club Training

Ground Bell Lane London Colney Hertfordshire

New reinforced mesh grid and gravel top surface to existing car park & new internal access.
17/2151/VOC 26 Woodhall Lane Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9AT Variation to condition 11 of planning permission 16/0258/FUL to amend the approved plans to include alterations to elevation & increase in ridge height.


With regards to

17/1879/ADV 142 London Road Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9BT Retrospective application for the erection of 1 No. illuminated fascia sign & 2

No. PVC banners

The meeting OBJECTED to this application as it is felt it is an inappropriate development within the green belt as commented on by residents.  It was also NOTED that it was a shame to have lost the name of such a landmark within the village.


With regards to

17/1872/FUL Land Rear Of Summerhill And Northfields, King Edward Road, Shenley, Hertfordshire, Construction of detached, 2 storey 4 bed house with accommodation within the roof space, associated landscaping, parking and bike store.

The meeting OBJECTED to this application on the grounds that:-

The development is too big

*It is an overdevelopment within the greenbelt

*The application goes against policies H8 & H11

*This is a tandem back garden development which is unacceptable

*The new height of the building will result in the neighbouring properties such as “Pen Y Bryn” having the light blocking the only window in a habitable room

*The original 3 bedroom application was reluctantly accepted by neighbours who acknowledge the need for new housing.

*The new development breaches the distance allowed between a new build development and an existing property.


With regards to

17/2265/HSE 8 Southerton Way Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9LJ Partial conversion of double garage to habitable room and first floor side extension.

The meeting do NOT object to the application as long as there is sufficient parking.


17/2239/HSE 10 Old Nursery Close Shenley Hertfordshire WD7 9FD Single Storey Side Extension

The meeting OBJECTED to this application as Permitted Development Rights have been removed and the owners would have been aware of this when they purchased the property.


(i)Other planning matters were noted, and

(ii)The council instructs the Clerk to advise Hertsmere Borough Council accordingly.

(*Denotes that at this point, the Council moved to discuss planning applications which had been brought to its attention at the meeting. They were proposed and seconded.)


99/17.           Financial matters

(I)                 Accounts for payment –November 2017 meeting

Payment To Reason Total Amount
BT Office Phone And Broadband (October Bill) 89.52
William Susman Reimburse Item For Halloween And  Disposable Glasses For Events 90.83
Petty Cash Petty Cash  – Amount To Take Up To £200 Imprest System For October 2017 188.94
Banner Stationary 51.91
Mrs Amanda Leboff Expenses – Xero Monthly Payment X 2 & Reimburse For Banners 145.14
Hertsmere Borough Council Resurfacing The Allotment Entrance 2194.80
Richard Archer Reimburse For Survey Monkey Sept & Oct – Neighbourhood Plan 70.00
John O’Conner November Grounds Maintenance 144.00
Hertfordshire County Council Stationary 17.98
Imagine Places Neighbourhood Plan Support 2688.00
Imagine Places Neighbourhood Plan Support 318.00
Shenley Methodist Church Hire Of Hall- Np 14.00
E.ON The Cage 8.33
HAPTC Ne Editions Of Good Councillor Guide X 10 Copies 30.00
Mrs Amanda Leboff Wages 1087.92
HMRC Payment 212.38
MJD Presentation Systems Label Tape 17.40
Groundwork UK Reimburse Part Of Np Grant 888.00
BT Office Phone And Broadband (November Bill) 105.13
Bob Gough Grounds Maintenance  (November Payment) 384.00
Fay Gough Cleaning Toilet, Office (November Payment) 32.00
Imagineplaces Local Plan Support 672.00
Petty Cash Petty Cash  – Amount To Take Up To £200 Imprest System For November 2017 169.97
TOTAL 9620.25

Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-

RESOLVED that the October 2017 meeting accounts for November 2017 (£9,620.25), be approved for payment.

(II)             Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED that the monthly budget monitoring report be approved.

(III)           Following a proposal and seconder, it was:-RESOLVED that the monthly petty cash report be approved

(IV)           Section 137 Grant Requests: –

Sir Richard Cox Charity request for the sum of £440 towards donations. Following a proposer and a seconder it was RESOLVED to approve to give £800 this year.

(V)             It was RESOLVED to ACCEPT the proposal to spend £2,200 in the first year to use an outside company to take on responsibility as GDPR controller

(VI)           The Council AGREED NOT to employ Imagineplaces to find faults with Hertsmere’s emergency local plan – £2,520(Inc. vat).  However it was RESOLVED to employ Imagineplaces to support the Parish Council at the Local Plan meeting – £672 Inc. VAT


100/17.         The meeting ended at 9.20p.m.                                           Chairman





provision action by action
Planning Applications Letter to Hertsmere Borough Council advising of the Council’s opinions. Clerk Actioned
Pond lights Hire of lighting designer to plan what is needed Clerk & Cllr Susman ASAP
Police Ask Police to attend Council meeting Clerk ASAP
Planning Application



Ask if Cllr Susman can be a Community Advocate for planning application 17/1872/FUL Clerk ASAP



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